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Ari Winters

is a professional facilitator and creator of The Relating Languages. Growing up, they were drawn to the complexities of human interaction, acting as a bridge between different social circles and communities, which sparked their fascination with facilitating discussions and fostering connections between people from diverse backgrounds.

They have worked with a wide range of organizations and individuals, helping them to improve their communication skills and build deeper, more meaningful connections. Ari is also a facilitator for numerous events and workshops, constantly seeking new ways to help people connect and communicate more effectively. In their free time, they enjoy engaging in activities that challenge them to think creatively and expand their horizons, such as reading, writing, and yoga.

Ari is a conglomerate persona representing and being represented by all of the Relating Languages team members. Learn more.

Sara Ness

is an instigator of authenticity, facilitator of connection, and awkward turtle of social situations. She has worked with tens of thousands of students in sectors from Google to Mindvalley to Burning Man, facilitating authentic leadership and communication. She is the author of the source text for her field, co-founded and ran two of the longest-running Authentic Relating communities in the world, and built an online platform for connection practices that ran events for more than 1,200 consecutive days.

Her writings and teaching have led to the foundation of 30+ authentic relating communities, performance troupes, nonprofits, several independent businesses, and at least one baby. Passionate about exposing the joy of human connection and exploring our creative potential through relationship, she is most lit up by creating things – projects, books, movements, systems, anything that her heart and brain can chew on at the same time.

Geof Krum

is an artist, producer, facilitator, entrepreneur, and none of these labels. He has managed thousands of employees and volunteers to manifest everything from festivals to juice manufacturing operations. Geof's passion is in creating beautiful, no-bullshit human-centered systems that run themselves while slowly transforming the world. Geof is the Dean of Authentic Revolution’s Facilitation Academy, and producer of KinkEd, an alternative sex education company.

Geof prides himself in the artful coordination of passionate specialists toward common goals.

Sarah Jack

is an Asian-American action actress & content creator. She graduated Summa Cum Laude with a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Dance Performance and Choreography from the University of Texas at Austin in 2019. Jack enjoys using performance as a way to educate through inspiration and play, for "all the world is a stage" and "art is a lie that helps us realize the truth."

Kael/a Atleework

is an experienced professional with a passion for connection and community building. She began her career by living and working as the head volunteer coordinator for humanitarian organizations Crossroads and New Hope Volunteers in South America. She then shifted her focus to interpersonal group communication, community building, co-living facilitation, and team management.

With over five years of international team building and group organizational experience, Kaela has traveled the world studying group dynamics, from ancient culture and tribal ritual to modern work force trends. Her research often explores the innate human-social need for connection and how it can be used to propel individual and collective growth. In 2015, Kaela founded Montaia.com, a company that provides guidance, expertise and a collaborative ecosystem to purposeful projects around the world.

Stephen Torrence

is a geeky wizard from Austin, Texas. He has worn many hats over the last decade and a half, accumulating a wide range of skills and experience. His areas of exploration include — technical systems design & integration, sustainable community building, interpersonal facilitation (including Authentic Relating), and classical Buddhist meditation training.

Stephen now lives as a digital nomad in Canada and the USA, facilitating relational meditation and working as a technical consultant for multiple conscious businesses. He loves collaborating with cutting-edge AI, walking (or swimming) in beautiful natural environments, and drinking hot cocoa in hip coffee shops.

Pamela Paek

aims to break past the social norms that can hold us back and keep us small. When asked about what they do, Pamela calls herself a positive troublemaker, who’s always trying to get out of trouble, not purposefully trying to cause any.

Pamela hates writing bios, because the unspoken expectation is to name pedigree and experience to showcase the credibility of who folks are. So, with much chagrin and frowning, they received a MA and PhD from the University of California at Berkeley in education. But, more importantly, Dr. Paek likes to say bad words. Not to be contrary or shocking. Because too often, those are the most accurate. A move to Australia will be easiest way she’ll be accepted for saying her favorite word.

Wouter Slegers

is a fervent advocate for global improvement, has made his mark as the founder and CEO of TrustCB and as an ardent angel investor of initiatives like Relating Languages and SoundSelf. Known for his presence at unconventional world-class events, he grows his knowledge while simultaneously expanding his unique network. As an Enneagram 5 with a Spiral Dynamics orange meme focus, he navigates the world through multiple models, ensuring his connections with people are deeply rooted and securely attached.

Wouter's fascination with Relating Languages has led him to support this model as a significant new lens to view the world. His default safety language is Withdrawing Observing, but he usually opts for the relating language appropriate to each situation, with a preference for all dialects of the Questioning and Storytelling languages, and especially the Conducting to Suggesting Directing language, based on the Observing language.